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New Bizarre Twists in the Macabre Case of Elisa Lam

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A few months ago, we reported on the incredibly creepy and gruesome case of Elisa Lam, a Canadian tourist who was found in a water tank at the top of the infamous Cecil Hotel, a hotel well known to have housed two serial killers and a myriad of strange deaths and suicides. The facts of the case initially left one almost certain that foul play was involved in this young woman’s death. Then a haunting surveillance video surfaced, showing Elisa in the elevator the night she disappeared.

Her behavior in the video is erratic, strange, almost occultist in places. From it, one draws one or both of the following conclusions:

1. Elisa was being followed (probably by the person who may have killed her, if she was killed)

2. Elisa was on drugs, which would both explain her bizarre behavior and make her vulnerable to any of the loons habituating the seedy hotel or its downtown Los Angeles environs.

Fast forward a few months…still no toxicology report. A near media blackout on the case. Besides a few online smatterings, it is almost as if the autopsy has been blotted out of the records.
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Fast forward another month to May 16th. The LAPD says the toxicology report will be released that week. Fast forward to June….still no toxicology report.

Then, abruptly, the coroner releases a report saying that the death was…accidental. Yes, accidental.

It turns out Elisa’s body was found nude, with no signs of trauma or drug intoxication. The culprit: bi-polar disorder. That’s right, no foul play, no drugs–depression. Really bad depression.

With only a little research we found some supporting evidence of this condition in Elisa’s blog, Ether Fields. Elisa, it seems, struggled with depression for many years. In one entry, she writes: “I had a relapse at the start of the term and had to drop 2 of the 3 courses I was taking. Now I am down to one course and I have missed 3 weeks of classes since my sleeping pattern is completely reversed.”

Relapse of what? One can only guess the very bi-polar disorder that apparently led to her demise. In another entry she writes:
elisa lam

According to the the final police report on this case, her depression escalated to bi-polarity, which resulted in her finding her way to the locked roof of the Cecil Hotel, climbing to the top of a 10 foot water tank, removing her clothes, and then inserting herself into the tank via the 16 inch latch door on the top. Either she drowned herself in the tank, or she accidentally fell in, perhaps while skinny dipping in her tragically deranged psychological state. We will probably never know for sure.

A fascinating second to second analysis of her behavior in the elevator suggests Elisa was feeling a wide gamut of dissonant and fluctuating emotions the night she died, wild mood swings that include confidence, anxiety, fear, joy and even sexual preening. Hauntingly, this analysis concludes that Elisa Lam was playing some kind of bizarre form of hide and seek. Given what we now ‘know’ about her bi-polarity, she may have been both the person hiding and the person searching.

In our last writeup of this baffling–and, admittedly, sad–case, we posited a third conclusion to be drawn from the surveillance tape: that Elisa had in fact been possessed by the same insidious spirits that infected serial killers Richard Ramirez, aka the Night Stalker, and Jack Unterweger, as well as the myriad other occupants that either died mysteriously or committed suicide at the Cecil Hotel, which also happens to have been one of the last places Elizabeth Short, or the Black Dahlia, was seen on the night of her grisly murder in 1947.

At the time of our last address, we confidently predicted that if no drugs were found in Elisa Lam’s system, this would be a clear cut case of paranormal possession. Of course, we didn’t know at the time that Elisa had a history of severe depression. Even if we had, though, would we have concluded that Elisa trudged to the locked, alarm-triggered roof of the Cecil Hotel, climbed to the top of a 10 foot cistern and drowned herself? It’s just so utterly bizarre….

And unfortunately, it gets more bizarre.

A YouTube user recently claimed that the Elisa Lam CCTV footage had been slowed down and possibly edited. He makes a case that the tape was tampered with and that we have not yet seen the full extent of Elisa Lam’s final video appearance.

Obviously, more investigation would have to be conducted to confirm whether or not the video was actually slowed down and edited. The timestamp jump certainly does seem suspicious. But then again, everything in a conspiracy theory must, by definition, seem suspicious.

An even more mind-numbing new discovery concerns an outbreak of tuberculosis in Los Angeles at around the same time as Elisa Lam’s disappearance. According to the CDC, 4,500 people were exposed to a drug-resistant form of TB. Incredibly, the name of the TB test used to make this diagnosis was called the LAM ELISA test. It is a whopping coincidence, one that has actually led online conspiracists to conclude that the Elisa Lam case is part of a much more convoluted false flag biological attack.

Whether this Lam Elisa TB test is an example of predictive programming, false flag communication, or merely an incredible coincidence, the fact remains: one can’t rule out the possibility that there is some kind of a coverup going on. Take an already baffling case of a body found in a water tank and add in a haunted hotel, a TB infection with a test seemingly named after the victim, a possibly doctored surveillance tape and an abnormally delayed release of a toxicology report.

To conclude this latest dispatch in the increasingly bizarre case of Elisa Lam, we offer up yet another incredible coincidence, or another hint of predictive programming. In the 2002 film Dark Water, a girl falls into a water tank at the top of a hotel and drowns. The infected water creeps down into the hotel walls, similar to what happened at the Cecil. In the 2005 American remake of the film, two of the characters are named Dahlia and Ceci.

The Synchronicity of Evil rears its ugly head again…

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  • javaknowledge

    Yes, it may be bi-polar or drugs and there are signs it might be that….BUT…….it still doesn’t explain why the elevators DO NOT CLOSE.

    • C.C

      and then re open again on other floors without anyone to push the buttons on the floors they open up on.. someone had to be calling the elevator or the doors on the other floors wouldn’t open, the elevator wouldn’t move anywhere..

      • Snickers

        Watching the video you can see her hitting all the buttons to every floor which would make the elevator stop on every floor.

        • tomthebomb024

          the timing of the doors was VERY strange though. they sat open for minutes upon minutes, then shut and opened within a minute, then continued to open and close at random intervals. I am not suggesting something supernatural occurred, but I certainly am intrigued by the elevator’s behavior

          • MandoV

            she was probably right outside away from camera view pushing the button that would open the doors. I assume to run in quickly and get away/hide

          • BombTheTom026

            Trolls should meet the same fate.

        • S3v3n007

          Ahhhh, grasshopper!

      • Dennis

        Elisa pushed all the floor buttons before exiting the elevator

      • godismyshadow

        There is no mystery. She was acting childish, playing a game with the elevator buttons when she thought she was alone. Some guy somewhere was watching her and became interested. When she refused his advances he put her in the water tank. End of story.

        • monica

          I agree. I wonder if the case is still open? They need to do further investigation.

          • The Ghost Diaries

            The case is officially closed–the police have decreed she got in the water tank herself in the midst of a bi-polar episode. We’re trying to collect more data and are writing a book about the topic.

        • Kristina

          Yeah…that must be it….that’s why the alarms on the roof didn’t go off…that’s why we don’t see him on tape speaking with her….and that must be why there was no markings on her body nor were there finger prints or even supposed tampering with the latch on the rooftop water supply locks….yep, some dude just wanted her and somehow he was a trained serial killer that knew exactly how to bypass the entire operation, without planning and without anyone even seeing or hearing a conversation like that on the floor or stairwell or anything…..makes sense….you must be a detective….;)

          • poot

            you aren’t making sense… sometime sarcasm just makes you sound like an idiot.

          • godismyshadow

            Elisa Lam was safe only while she remained on the elevator. Her pursuer knew there was a surveillance camera on the elevator. That’s why he never appears on the video. He knew some trick and was working the buttons from somewhere to keep the doors from closing. Once Elisa Lam left the vicinity of the elevator her pursue allowed the doors to close. Then he went and got her.

        • The Ghost Diaries

          Have to admit, disappointing conclusion from an account named God Is My Shadow :(

        • Valya

          LOL, end of story? Did he bring a blow torch to open the water tank and throw her in and make copy of the keys to get through the doors?

          • godismyshadow

            Perhaps she was acting strange because she didn’t know there was a camera. Most of you will make faces in the mirror and do other odd things when you believe you have complete privacy. Regardless of that, she was neatly dressed and wearing her sandals that day. Her hair was brushed and she appeared to be taking good care of herself. She was not tearful or crying, so she wasn’t thinking about suicide. It may have been misadventure. In this case she fell inside the tank inadvertently, but it hardly seems likely.

      • Guest

        if you watch when she is leaning forward with her hair pulled back she pushes all the buttons on her own. here’s a suggestion from a person with life long parasomnias such as sleep walking, look up the term pseudo suicide, I’ve seen gesturing like that in a video before my own from the sleep lab when I was sleepwalking.

      • Sam

        Elevator stops coz she pressed all buttons except floor 14. Watch the video. Then ylou will be noticed that she pressed all buttons to let the elevator to stop at all floors. But still don’t know why she did that…

    • Andre keurentjes

      she was pushing the buttons a lot. and she probably did that too before the video started.
      she probably had a bi polar condition and started hallucinating at times .
      a signal in the brain tells you when you are experiencing things for real or thinking it .

      people who a bi polar can lack this signal sometimes, at least so i hear.

      my theory is this .
      she was tired of the illness and hallucinations and wanted to kill herself on top of the roof.
      she knew about the water tank before..

      the elevator was acting weird because she push the button a many times .
      it had a door close delay

      She resets the timers every time the door sensor sees her.

      that is why they did not close .
      she was pushing the outside button when she out of sight.
      so the doors still don not close

      when they finally start moving from floor to floor , the elevator was running the sequence she pushed the floor buttons inside.

      She went to the outside window on the first floor, took the fire escape ladder to the roof.
      then she went to the ladder or red stairs on the roof to get on the second roof.
      she dropped on top of the water tank.
      she opened the lit and jumped in .
      she never opened the lit completely , so it shut when she slides threw .

      she cannot reach the top because the water level is too low .
      so she cannot change her mind and climb out .

      we know the rest of the story.

      • Imagine20

        If you’re bi-polar and ever been thrown into a scary manic phase, this accidental death finding makes complete sense, especially if her mood stabilizer wasn’t at a therapeutic dose. (I’ve read she was taking Lamictal.) It’s possible she had no idea what she was really doing.

        • Carin Ekre Anderson

          I am bipolar….and have been in major manic states. That does not possess someone to the point of getting into and closing a water tank. All you ppl are doing is perpetuating a negative stigma. Ya know what I think? Meth. It exits the system within three days but the effect of sleep deprivation and the long term effects on the brain can cause this type of behavior even after the drugs are out of the system.
          either way….the “bipolar” theory has a ridiculous amount of homes.

          • Bjorgen Eatinger

            I also thought the exact same thing, well before even finding this link and reading these posts. I think this poor, sad, pretty young lady had gotten her hands on some meth and was just tweaking, hard. I know of folks who use meth to combat severe depression and it works for them. Maybe somebody introduced her to that shitty drug, and she enjoyed how it brought her out of her depression shell. She was probably just having a trip, tweaking away and fell into that tank with no way out. The water had to be very cold as well.

          • christinek

            You would not act that way with any kind of recreational/short-tern use of meth. I have seen some strange behavior (mostly auditory hallucinations, extreme paranoia) in those that are long-term, habitual users-and really only when they have been up for a very long period of time. It’s not like you do some meth and just automatically turn into a crazy person. I’ve done it just a few times before (like twice), and all it did was give me a decent high (a ‘good’ feeling) and some energy. It doesn’t turn you crazy unless you’re doing it habitually for a decent amount of time, and aren’t getting any sleep. But still, I dont think it would cause one to kill themselves. It’s possible, but I don’t think very likely, UNLESS it was coupled with some kind of psychological disorder. That could definitely exaggerate symptoms of a disorder that also causes hallucinations and paranoia, making it much worse than normal.

        • Nucs

          That’s interesting in that my daughter takes Lamictal for Epilepsy. I worked in an assisted care home for people with issues..one of our residents was Bi Polar and took Lithium for it, she would have manic episodes fortnightly, she would go out all day and shop until she had no money left and was high and happy then would come home and fall, literally go from happy to downright mad. This lady attacked my partner in the kitchen with a carving knife, he was lucky that there was another male staff member there with him, and he managed to disarm her, but she was very very strong, we had to get the CAT team to come in and deal with her. This young lady could very easily have opened and closed the lid on that water tower if she was in fact Bi Polar. People underestimate how strong these people can be. Even the 6 foot built like a brick @#ithouse nurse we had needed help with her.

          • KarenK

            Interesting story, Nucs. However, when someone crashes from a manic episode, they crash to depression. Bipolar people, on the whole, are not violent, especially in a depressive mode. We kill ourselves, not others. But what this girl did doesn’t appear to be a bipolar episode. I would think more schizophrenic.

          • Kira Winter

            As someone who’s lived with Bipolar II most of my life, I’m surprised that nobody here has mentioned the very special, particular hell that is a mixed episode. In a mixed episode, you are both deeply depressed, and agitated to the point of mania at the same time. It is a truly excruciating experience. The only time I’ve been hospitalised for my condition was during one of these episodes, and was considered to be at high risk of harming myself or someone else. During the course of other mixed episodes I had chased my boyfriend (at the time) around our apartment with a knife and no idea whether I meant to use it on myself or on him, and jumped out of a (luckily slow) moving car in my pyjamas in the middle of the night, in a part of the city I was completely unfamiliar with. I also had bronchitis at the time, and was lucky enough to run into a friendly cop who took me home, instead of to the bin. My point being that people in a mixed episode can do a lot of bizarre, stupid, dangerous things that they would never otherwise even consider. A mixed episode can make you paranoid, angry, suicidal, uncontrollably emotional, mildly delusional, and painfully restless, all at the same time. The majority of bipolar suicides happen during mixed episodes.

            That said, in the video, she looked more like she was in a hypomanic state to me. Hypomania is a mild form of mania, and usually does not include the delusions that can accompany manic or mixed episodes. It’s actually rather fun, and I’ve heard it compared to the effects of E or meth. Now that I’ve got an excellent doctor and the right drug cocktail to keep me stable, I almost miss hypomania. But not quite. I prefer stability.

            I still don’t think Elisa Lam’s mental state tells the whole story, though. There are too many other details to the case that just don’t add up to a simple suicide or accident, regardless. A mentally unstable woman is particularly vulnerable to predators due to a complete lack of sound judgement or common sense. My gut says she ran into the wrong guy at the wrong time, in the wrong state of mind and unable to protect herself.

        • KarenK

          I take Lamictal, and I have never had what you’re describing, even when my dosage was wrong.

        • C.C

          Lamictal made my husband Suicidal..

      • Carin Ekre Anderson

        Bipolar people do not hallucinate.

        • Jen

          I’m not sure that is necessarily true. Someone very close and dear to me went into a psychotic break about a year ago; auditory hallucinations, some visual hallucinations, delusions, very strange behavior, etc. After being kept under close watch at a mental health facility for almost two months, she was finally diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was convinced it was schizophrenia, as I always thought bipolar simply meant you went from mood to mood quickly and extremely. However, after this experience, it has become apparent that the disorder is not limited to those symptoms

          • LoggerheadShrike

            Those are symptoms of a psychotic break, not bipolar disorder. Everyone, regardless of whether they’re bipolar or schizophrenic or not, literally everyone, is susceptible to having a psychotic break.

          • DaylightAmy

            Being bipolar and having a psychotic break or psychosis are not at all the same thing. Though both can be true at the same time, bi-polar people are about as likely to have a psychotic break as anyone who is not (as they are usually triggered by drugs or trauma, which are far from exclusive to bi-polar people).

        • Kasey

          Not all, but some do. This doesn’t only happen when having a psychotic break.

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            Many times when a bp person does show these signs another disorder is present, like schizophrenia, and bc the two share symptoms can sometimes be misdiagnosed. The percentage of bp people showing signs of hallucinations are less than 1% and like I said, have other contributing disorders or factors.
            saying “she was bipolar and must have been hallucinating” is is giving the general public an idea about the disease that isn’t realistic, and seems so easily accepted….I wonder if they just looked at her diagnosis and wrote this off or if the looked at her complete psych records to see if there was any credence to the theory. I assure you in a typical bp person it would take more than just the illness to cause behavior like that. We are still conscious thinking people-we dont just out of nowhere lose touch like that. If a psychotic break due to symptoms of her bp really caused this then she would’ve shown signs hours or even days before something like this happened.

        • James Ellette

          Bipolar people are not immune to hallucinations.

        • Holly Hayes

          That isn’t true. There are two types of bipolar disorder: bipolar I disorder, and bipolar II disorder. The difference between the two of them is the severity of the manic phase of the disease. During bipolar II, it’s ‘just’ hypomania; but if you have bipolar I, then you experience full-blown mania. The main difference between hypomania and mania is that people who are manic also experience psychosis.

          • DaylightAmy

            But serious Bipolar I patients aren’t often wandering around like regular college students either…

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            There are six million bipolar ppl in the US and most of us live pretty normal lives. I went to college and am married with a child. Lol @ BP ppl not “wandering around”
            You make it sound like ppl w mental heath issues all belong in straight jackets. Pfffft

          • C.C

            My brother has a job and family and he’s Bi-Polar2

          • Holly Hayes

            That’s silly. People with bipolar disorder are fully capable of leading normal lives. They’re not walking around in a state of psychotic mania all the time.

          • KarenK

            You have it mostly right. People who are manic do not normally experience psychosis like visual or auditory hallucinations. I have never known anyone, including myself, with bipolar that did that.

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            I am bipolarII and you’re mistaken. We do experience full mania and rapid cycling. I think you have your types mixed.

          • Holly Hayes

            No, I don’t have my types mixed.

            Bipolar I is depression and full-blown mania. Bipolar II is depression and hypomania. Cyclothymia is hypomania and dysthymia (less severe depression). Rapid cycling is four or more episodes a year (and does not represent a type in and of itself; anyone with any bipolar disorder could be rapid cycling). Bipolar NOS (Not Otherwise Specified) means that you have bipolar-like symptoms, but do not meet the clinical threshold to be diagnosed with bipolar I or II. And schizoaffective disorder is a combination of bipolar affective disorder and schizophrenia in which hallucinations occur even when the person is stable in terms of their mood.

        • KarenK

          Thank you! Bipolar is so misunderstood. I am bipolar, and what Jen is describing below is more like schizophrenia. Someone may have misdiagnosed her friend. Bipolar patients do NOT hallucinate (unless given bad medication of course), we do not have delusions (except grandeur when manic).

        • Dawned upon 33rd

          When my

        • Dawned upon 33rd

          When my father would have a manic attack he would have conversations with the Sun, please do research.

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            Is 17 years of living with it and looking through scientific studies enough? Lol
            Most likely your father had comorbid disorders, meaning more than one which feed off of eachother. Back in the day doctors did not recognize comorbidity like they do now. Sounds like he also had schizoaffective behaviors.
            That being said, what your father did falls into the category of “auditory event” hearing things and SEEING things as miss Lam is though to are two different things.

          • Holly Hayes

            If he only had these symptoms while he was manic, then it COULD NOT have been schizoaffective disorder. The very definition of schizoaffective disorder means that if you experience hallucinations or delusions during mania or depression, then you automatically cannot be diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder or any of the other mental illnesses that could be confused with bipolar disorder (borderline personality disorder, for example).

          • Valya

            I don’t want to anger anyone, but bipolar currently has become a wastebasket diagnosis. There have always been ‘diagnoses du jour’ so the INSURANCE COMPANIES will pay the bills for the patients and the patients are pushed into the diagnosis criterion.

        • C.C

          But some Bi-Polar meds can make you halucinate.. My brother was on one right after he was diagnosed, he had an hour long time he was hanging out with a friend only to find out that friend had never been there because he was across the country on vacation at the time. Meds for Bi-Polar can be wicked.

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            True, but she was taking Lamictal, which is an anti seizure amd mild mood stabilizer. No hallucinations w that one, even at a higher dose.

        • Sandee Byus

          Actually, some do. My second husband had sever hallucinations at times. They believe that’s is why he ended up committing suicide.

        • mental health nurse

          when a person is experiencing major depression or mania hallucinations and delusions are common. These symptoms will disappear when the mood gets back to more average of levels.

      • jo

        she was standing with her back on the wall when she got out perhaps she was pushing the button?

      • Special Agent Wiggles

        Wow! You are incredible. Great scenario man!

      • Ambelino

        Just have to put in my two cents, late to the game, I know. I was diagnosed with BP type II years ago, and also experience hallucinations (fortunately no longer on a regular basis). When I made my former psychiatrist aware of the hallucinations, he diagnosed me with mild psychosis in addition to the bipolar (and a few others). Now, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were technically a symptom of BP that gets diagnosed as another thing like in my case. However, I don’t know enough of the DSMV to say for sure. I think the specific diagnoses would probably depend on the doctor. What it comes down to is she may have had hallucinations as a result of the bipolar disorder, or as a result of something else. She may have in fact had something like myself, some
        sort of mild psychosis. Maybe it just hadn’t been diagnosed. What it comes down to is, knowing that she had hallucinations is more important than knowing what possible disorder/illness could have caused the hallucinations – at least, that is my opinion.

        What an intriguing case, though. It has had me reading and researching since it broke the news. That poor girl. So many possible reasons/causes for what happened to her, I just wish we could know which is true.

      • Dawned upon 33rd

        That’s an interesting theory. It does not explain the where-about of her clothing near the scene and how she fit in such a small space however. The opening was 16-inches wide. If you look at the fireman with the red hat you’ll see the size of the opening to the right. For her to slide the lid enough to where she could slide it back would be impossible. Another theory would be that an employee that saw the lid open just put it back without knowing of what happened. It’s not too far-fetched since her body was there for two weeks. Whatever caused this, whether it be mental illness or some sort of paranormal event, was extremely creepy.

        http://cdn-ugc.cafemom.com/gen/constrain/500/500/80/2013/10/24/13/5z/sn/po0or4n44k.jpg

        • Kristina

          My thoughts exactly….somethings just can’t be explained away with mental illness and a guy that just so happens to know how to bypass all those safegaurds without a trace…the poice are afraid to say it, but they’re just as baffled as we are…some things in this word don’t have simple answers or realistic ones at that…..I don’t doubt anyone’s theory at this point, but there is NO such thing as coincidence….all these things play into one big explanation and I’m not so certain we’d like the answer nor do I think the majority would even believe it because we’ve been conditioned in this country not to….this case is beyond creepy….and I have no doubt that the answer is beyond even that…..:/

    • Frank Hodder

      she pressed the hold door button.

    • Credibleman

      There is a distortion in the video as you can see around 2:12, the way the door is closing looks very odd, as if some footage was cut. I cannot find any un-cut footage which leads me to think that claim of someone saying she did something “bizarre” is coming off rather suspicious… Does anyone know of any unedited version of the video or was it cut from the get-go?

      If that’s the case wouldn’t that mean the hotel staff are the suspects? Or at least someone who had access to the videos from the hotel?

    • S3v3n007

      Someone else said it could be due to her not wearing her glasses, AND the fact that she was pressing ALL of the buttons in the elevator, including the “Hold door open” button…which seems so obvious, I feel like an idiot for not having thought of that myself. This whole thing is crazy weird?!

  • Al Crowe-Lee

    The elevator doors do not close because she presses the ‘door hold’ button. By the way, the water tank she was found in is directly above the elevator. Spontaneous teleporting, anyone?

    • C.C

      but she didn’t disappear from the elevator, she disappeared from the hallway, not putting her directly below said water tank..

  • Harry Bolzonia

    Here is the autopsy report
    http://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/02/24/el-autopsy/preview-el-autopsy-22
    Makes for superb bedtime reading.

    • Selena

      Thank-You for the link, Harry. So, there was a men’s size large, green Alexander Keiths India Pale Ale t-shirt found with Elisa’s clothing. The murderer’s t-shirt? The parents have a civil suit with the Cecil, which has changed its name, shamelessly to Stay on Main Hotel and Hostel.

      • over the moon

        Does it really list the large male t-shirt in the autopsy report?

        • Selena

          Hello,
          Yes, it does list the men’s t-shirt, along with men’s black shorts. The shorts may have been Elisa’s, though. However, the t-shirt is bothersome, as I feel it is an uncommon one, And so it was ditched by whoever saw Elisa last?

          • Anon

            A green t-shirt found. yet in the cctv footage she was wearing a grey shirt under her jacket. This is grey shirt is not in the autopsy!

          • over the moon

            The implication I got from this is that the t-shirt belonged to another person who might have been there. Supposedly it was a large male t-shirt. But that is hearsay until I see that in the autopsy, she could have just been wearing a second larger shirt.

      • anon1

        Alexander Keith’s is a Canadian beer company. Tshirts are in cases of beer as giveaways…usually large sometimes medium. So yes, a Canadian girl may have in her possession a men’s large beer shirt, most girls I know lounge around in larger clothing, especially their bf’s clothes. That doesn’t take away from the fact she wasn’t wearing it, but the implication that a man was there because of a tshirt given away in the thousands to canadians is not evidence, merely speculation.

        • The Ghost Diaries

          Haha I almost deleted this thinking it was spam after all the beer talk. Glad I didn’t, really good point

      • Andrew Pliakis

        According to her blog she liked wearing men’s clothes and described herself as a tomboy.

  • Piedad

    Check this out.

    http://cryptidantiquarian.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/what-happened-to-elisa-lam/

    A very lucid theory, in my point of view.

    • Bread Sandwich

      Hide-and-seek body language? Whoever thought that has never been a young girl being pursued by someone who she is not yet sure is being friendly or is dangerous.

  • Ed

    The CCTV could be slowed down – which is obvious by observing the counter – to make identification easier because she was a missing person. Also the edit doesn’t mean much – it’s possible that the camera paused because it had a motion sensor or it was edited because nothing was happening. I think she’s talking outside the door to someone she cant see,’ she’s feeling around in the air to try and locate them and giving reasons at one point by counting on her fingers – (maybe to soldiers using cloaking dexices – a theory that has been offered with fairly convincing evidence on other sites).

    • The Ghost Diaries

      That’s a wild theory. So do the proponents of cloaking device/soldier theory think this was some kind of psyop?

  • Stoney

    This story still freaks me out today. I believe she must have been murdered.

  • Stefan Matthias

    Maybe she tried to hide in the water tank? That would also explain her strange behaviour in the elevator, maybe she was really chased or just thought it becouse of some mental thing and so scared that she got into that dissociated state not knowing where to go. If she thought that she could only go to the top of the building as the person(s) chasing her where supposedly coming from the bottom and at the top she had the idea of hiding in the tank rather than jumping of the building when the chasers would arive. (sry for the bad english, it´s just my second language after german).

    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2007/03/01/2003350486

    • Carrie-Anne

      But she was naked in the water tank? Why would she take her clothes off to hide from somebody?

    • Bojangles

      I read in another report that they had to drill a hole to open the water tank. If it’s that difficult to open, how did she get in??

      • Artur Ludwig Brzuza

        The hole was only 16 inches wide, bodies tend to bloat after being in the water too long.

        • Bojangles

          Workers had to cut the tank open to remove her body. The lids of the water tanks are so heavy, furthermore, that it is likely impossible one person could have moved them. How, then, did she get into the tank and then replace the lid behind her?

          • Are Vee

            Bojangles- you are making an assumption about the weight of the specific water tank lid on this hotel without basis.

          • Bojangles

            I pulled this from some other article that I read… I don’t remember where…

      • Andrew Pliakis

        Water tends, as Artur said, to bloat corpses. They didn’t cut it open because it is difficult to open, after all I assume some sort of valve does all the work, but because the body wouldn’t fit.

        • Bojangles

          Oh ok, well then that changes everything. There is nothing strange about this case at all. It’s a total normal, everyday occurrence.

          • Andrew Pliakis

            Define ‘normal’. Elisa was using prescribed medication for her bipolar condition. According to the autopsy report the drugs were found in her system, as well some alcohol in her bile. Who’s to say that she didn’t cause a chain reaction (accidentally or otherwise) when she combined alcohol with her medicine? Or that some of the more serious side-effects said medicine can cause gave her hallucinations?

            Also, http://inthelandoftheblindoneeyeisking.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/image4.jpg using that ladder makes it easier to get in the tank, don’t you think?

          • Carin Ekre Anderson

            I take lamictal (same as she was) and have for almost a decade. I have been sober for the past three years but before that I was a heavy drinker. I can assure you that mixing lamictal w liquor really doesn’t produce adverse reaction, one of the few more mild meds.

  • Alex sam

    I feel like there should be more footage. Majority of hotels have cameras in the hallway… So where’s the footage of that?

    • The Ghost Diaries

      It’s a pretty run-down hotel, but yes one would think there would at least be footage of her checking in.

      • Wri Ter

        to be honest, its amazing we have the footage we do. most places’ video surveillance is not retained for any lengthy, significant period of time. Digital dumps are more common than analog tape these days, so you’d think archiving would be easier/cheaper. but most places never really consider that the footage will ever be useful, so it often gets wiped after a week at most.

    • http://www.northprime.com/ North Emissary

      Not in Downtown L.A. bro…not in Downtown L.A.

    • jack

      forget it alex, it’s chinatown

    • Jesse Michelle

      the hotel did state that if they put security cameras in places other than the elevator they would go out of business because of the type of people that stay there. In my opinion I think there is probably a couple serial killers that’ve been working there for a long time

  • mentalhealthprofessional35

    The lam elisa test was around way before this happened. What a bunch of crap. If more people worked in mental health this behavior wouldn’t seem bizarre at all. This was the manic aspect of bi-polar and not depression. and when someone is this manic they become what is called schizo-affective. Reality and perception is distorted, paranoia, hallucinations amongst other things. unfortunately when someone like this has their sleep schedule turned around, it’s like they are on hallucinogens. No conspiracy. Just a sad event for a very sweet and innocent kid. Stop exploiting her for entertainment.

    • Roy A

      Thank you. I’m no psychology expert but I have been depressed and I have experienced the mania described. People don’t realized where a stressed mind is capable of taking them. I used to pretend there was an insane person living in my apartment trying to kill me but then every once in a while him and I would just sit and talk all out of loneliness and depression. Just an example of things a person will do in a manic state. Who knows what she was thinking but I feel sad for her loved ones and also sad because I identify with her condition.

      • The Ghost Diaries

        I suffer chronic depression and have a family history of borderline personality and bipolar so let me assure you, our fascination with this stems partially from trying to understand and see into the darkness of the human mind. Ultimately, that can be just as horrifying and mystifying as the paranormal. I feel awful for Elisa Lam, which is why I spent days pouring over her blog and tumblr account, trying to get inside her mind. The readers here raise some incredibly interesting points about the problematic logistics of how this went down. This could be paranormal, a case of stalking and murder, or just tragic human error. But I just wanted to reiterate that we approached this from the beginning with awe, sympathy and terror, not malice or click-bait avarice. In fact, this article went unread for nearly a half year before people starting taking notice of just how creepy it is.

    • The Ghost Diaries

      No exploitation is intended. This is a genuinely creepy story and we do not disparage mental illness.

    • Owais

      Lets suppose everything you said is correct then what about the elevator?? It wasn’t working when she was near but when she left it worked normally.

      • Deejaydub

        I think her behaviour in the elevator is more plausible to be some form of schizo paranoia than possession but how did she bypass the alarmed locked door for access to the roof? If she found a key to the door and was able to bypass the alarm to the hotel, then I could believe in her ‘state of mind’ getting inside the water tank may have seemed like the right thing to do.

        • v3ss

          That one , is the biggest questionmark.

    • YLIME

      I agree with mentalhealthprofessional35…once you throw schizoaffective or psychosis into the mix, all bets are off. The way she was behaving on the elevator was as if she was “feeling the air” to see if her hallucinations were palpable. All of this was likely in her head. But isn’t that the scariest thing of all? The most terrifying thing to get away from is yourself.
      And I don’t know about LAM ELISA, but ELISA is a test that is used for a million different things in biology…it’s definitely not new. It stands for Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay.

    • Ashley

      Her behavior can easily be explained by her mental disorder, what doesn’t make sense is how the elevator acted as well as how she passed through an alarmed (and presumably locked) rooftop access door and then into an (also presumably locked) water cistern, and then closed the lid behind herself and drowned.

    • Johnna

      I respect scientists and learned professionals, however, the unexplained portions such as the elevator door behavior, and the woman being naked, having perished in a water tank (has anyone found out how she entered the tank and closed it over herself and gained entrance through locked and alarmed doors?) These issues do get addressed by the psychology-angle commenters in most cases. So I’d like to hear your explanation of this phenomenon, rather than everything being a psychological pathology. If you can’t throw pills or therapy at it – it can never be paranormal or unexplained, right? Also, was she observed displaying this behavior anywhere else by anyone else at any time? So it’s just at that hotel that has a paranormal and bizarre reputation that she acted this way…

    • DaylightAmy

      Nobody is questioning her illness, or the severity of mental illness, I think a lot of people are just wondering how this was physically possible (even if she did do it herself due to her illness) to enter a locked rooftop with an alarm, open a water tank which the firemen couldn’t even open without cutting it with tools, etc.

      • Andrew Pliakis

        From what I know, there are two possible ways of entry to the roof. One may be locked, but if you look via streetview of the hotel you’ll notice that it’s pretty easy to get there via the fire escape. As for how she got there, I heard that someone complained about a loud noise or something. Perhaps that was the top closing?

    • Carin Ekre Anderson

      If you are a mental health pro you really oughta be less brash with what you say. Less than 1% of bipolars end up w schizoaffective behaviors. You are totally perpetuating the stigma. *Thanks for that*

  • Ladymcbox

    ELISA is actually the name for an entire class of medical testing. It stands for something and has to do with the method of testing. My son has a chronic medical condition and has had several ELISA labs.

    • C.C

      it stands for enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay and your right. :0)

      • Selena

        Thank-You, CC. Many articles/posts make it seem like they are related, but it is a coincidence. I had no idea until I saw your post :-)

  • http://www.oneduality.com oneduality

    My biggest questions remain, I only just learned of this case..

    1. How did she bypass the two entry points to the roof? one is said to be an alarmed door, the second is an emergency exit… either one would have set of an alarm.. only employees are supposedly able to access the roof.

    2. She got into the tank obviously pretty easily.. why did the fire department have to cut it open?

    3. I have two families that are severely bipolar and I’ve yet to see anything like this in my 36 years alive.. not saying it’s not possible.. but I’ve not seen this kind of behavior

    4. WHY DID THE ELEVATOR NOT WORK!? she was pressing all of the floor buttons… yet the door stayed gaping wide open… it wasn’t until she was off frame for a while that the elevator decided to function, and you see it stop at multiple floors .. open… close… just as you’d expect.. she seemed to be trying to get off of that floor…

    None of it adds up.. and I suppose none of it ever will ..

    • Alex

      I know the truth. That was just a part of Alternative Reality Game. ELISA LAM never existed.

      • The Ghost Diaries

        That’s awesome

        • Care

          So someone says the truth is that she never existed…….and pretty much NOBODY pays attention! People just carry on with their guessing games because that’s so much more fun isn’t it. So much of what we take for granted is actually completely made up, it really wouldn’t surprise me if this was also. MAYBE…..just occasionally when someone says they know the truth, they really do. Reality game. Precisely.

    • Andrew Pliakis

      1. Through Google StreetView The fire escape entry point seems pretty bare, so perhaps there’s no alarm.

      2. They had to cut it open due to the fact that corpses tend to bloat when underwater.

      3. I’ve heard from other sources online that the medicines prescribed to her have potentially dangerous side-effects. Also, she could simply also have hallucinations due to another condition.

      4. If you look at the video, she presses all the buttons. Including, one could assume, the hold door button which works exactly as advertised.

  • C.C

    Ok a couple concerns I have here, ONE..in a HOTEL or even a MOTEL there are cameras in elevators, down hallways and usually in service stairwells and definately on rooftops but seemingly not here? or….where’s the footage?!?

    TWO…Who’s pushing the buttons after the elevator starts working again that it would stop and open the door on other floors? because the way they work..someone has to push for the elevator on the floor your on to make the door open..

    THREE…How did she know the directions to the roof, without tripping the alarm, and how’d she know that if she climbed a latter there would be water in the vat she could drown/swim in? If it was premeditated due to bipolar disorder she would have had to have previous knowledge of the route and that vat and its location on the roof etc..

    FOUR..it looks to me like she’s talking to someone when she gets out of the elevator, we just can’t see them.

    FIVE.. Have you EVER known the streets of LA ANYWHERE especially there to be empty, quiet, and devoid of a single soul with not a business open? because that could be the only way she went through this event without anyone on the outside of the hotel seeing her ever. It would be pretty out of place and therefore, pretty distracting to passers by. This part of LA has a huge nightlife, i’d find it hard to believe NO ONE was ANYWHERE around and NEVER saw her..

    • Joe – HU

      No.2 question. She pushed all the buttons before she left,
      so the elevator just follows the order one by one.

    • Joe – HU

      the question No1. is really interesting! maybe not on roof, but on the hallways?

    • http://www.mattsilver.ca/ Matt S

      Not claiming I know the actual answers to your questions, but here’s some reasonably sound answers that fit:

      #1. If in fact the hotel is as seedy and downtrodden as folks say, it’s not a leap to think that there might not be top notch security systems in place. I can think of many instances where public cameras and/or security systems didn’t work when the police went to ”check the tape’ of various places.

      #2. Elisa pushes the buttons – seems pretty noticeable on the video.

      #3. We don’t know when she got to the roof, so she may have wandered the hotel’s top floor until she found the hatch to the roof… Ask any curious minded person (myself incl) if they’ve ever seen a stairwell or ladder leading up to a roof and asked themselves: ”I wonder what it’s like up there?” Or if you take from the theories of foul play – she could have been lead there by somebody who was manipulating her inability to make sound choices and they lead her up there.

      #4. If we can’t see who she is talking to, it could be ANYONE (or no one). Heck it could be a passerby who almost came into the frame, got freaked out by her and turned around and went the other way. I know I would.

      #5. I have to admit I don’t know LA well enough to answer specifically to this context, but I can give you the answer any first year psych student would know. Shared difference. People are far less likely to take action or think that something is out of place if nobody else is taking initiative. Statistically you’re far more likely to be saved if you’re being beaten, raped, murdered, if there is 1 or 2 people witnessing the crime than if there were many people witnessing the crime.

      Again… these are only plausible explainations which is not meant to be taken as THE truth.

  • Joe – HU

    I just met with this story and the “explanations”
    behind. As a strongly sceptic person, I found enough evident about a terrible but
    self-made accident. that is a question that nobody will answer ever, that poor
    girl want only to swim or really want to make the end of her life. The only
    think what I do not understand, even watching the real speed CCTV video, that
    when the girl is on the picture (and visibly not touching any button, and not
    between sensors) why the door of the elevator does not close – like later when
    the elevator just going down its opens and closes the door exactly 5 sec. while
    when she enters there are minimum 8 sec after the last button pushed or 19 sec.
    when she is outside, but it is visible that she is out of the sensor line and
    she can not hold the call button because she is with her back to the wall. Can
    somebody explain this to me pls?

    • Jimspy

      I just read on another blog that someone went to the Cecil Hotel and found out that the “Hold” button places the elevator in a two-minute hold. So that mystery is solved.

      • Richard Plunkett

        But people are only assuming that she pushed the hold door button. From the way the video looks I’d have to say that the hold door button is above the floor buttons. Now we can clearly see that she doesn’t reach up there and we can’t know the exact floors she was pressing since the video is so blurry. We can see four buttons lit up though.

  • C.C

    Also after reading the autopsy report I have a query..how is it that this woman who wears a size small petite underwear was wearing a size medium MENS shorts? even her sweater she was wearing was xs…
    Also, there’s the presence of sand? and only her sweater was wet? not her shirt,shorts, underwear..only sweater..

    And i’m having a hard time believing that’s a real autopsy report for such statements as ” i made incisions in the usual way” and “have been submitted to the lab” um..in medical school that would have earned me an F…you have to describe how each cut is made, each time, you have to be specific about what labs, what went where and what tests are being run..there is never such generalized terms as used in that alleged autopsy report, also it has hardly any identifying information on it, there is never an autopsy that has just the year, random number and her name..i’d tout this one as a bogus autopsy.

    • Joe – HU

      I have a theory. but it is less paranoia like the others.
      Someone a stuff member (who knew the location of all working camera, who was
      able to open an alarmed door to the roof, and who knew that the girl has some
      weak points – that you can tell after a few personal meetings (like reception
      desk talks)), invited her to the roof, for some activity (and this person is
      holding the button of the elevator from the hallway, not letting the girl
      leaving, till she gave up, and steps out and leave with the person (human not a
      ghost, only a human can be so evil). and then something went wrong up there…

      • tanforoneday

        i rewatched…you nailed it. the button being held is now obvious. thank you for pointing this out

      • Deejaydub

        I like the way you are thinking as I too don’t believe it was some form of ghost. However, when she steps in to the hallway she acts like she is looking for someone… looking both ways and grasping at air. If someone was standing there she would have looked directly at them.

        • Credibleman

          Well it actually does look like she was looking at someone. Notice the second time she went out she kept looking towards the top left position and from then on it looked like she was following the directions of someone on the left side.
          I believe someone forced her to make all those hand gestures and actions because that person KNEW there was only a camera in the elevator and not the hallway. Possibly a staff member who had access to the roof top.

          I don’t know why people are finding this hard to believe. It isn’t uncommon for murderers to “design” their murder scene to make it look like the victim was insane. The murderer probably used the fact that she was a tourist to his advantage.

          • The Ghost Diaries

            You think the murderer coordinated her movements, or directed her to act a certain way in order to confuse police?? Cool theory but a little out there–even for us!

          • Credibleman

            Isn’t a girl stripped naked in a 10 foot water tank, on a roof top that had only one door that required security access, to be only discovered 19 days later, a bit out there too?

          • Kristina

            “Out there”…..most criminally insane serial psychopathic killers usually are….:/

        • Carin Ekre Anderson

          The gasping for air could be anxiety attack brought on by fear or stress. A lot of bi polars also have attacks like that.

      • Capt Howdy

        If even if she was ill, I dont think she would have made her way to the roof to commit suicde in a water tank naked. Suiciders want a quick death. Golden Gate bridge jumpers for instance. If anything, sho would have just jumped off the roof. This was done by a staff member or someone very familliar with the workings of the hotel.

        • Kristina

          I thought that too! Suicide angle doesn’t quite work here….why get rid of your clothes and where are they? Why care so much about people not finding your clothes? Why go into a water tank? Why not just jump off the building or drown in your hotel room’s tub? Why go to the extent to draw attention to yourself and then die in a small and difficult place to get to when usually the quickest and easiest way out is the way people usually take when it comes to suicide? Doesn’t add up to what we know of the case and I know it can’t make sense to the cops….:/

  • http://www.mattsilver.ca/ Matt S

    Being a pragmatist, I can only bring myself to believe 2 plausible explanations that wouldn’t involve the usage of government intervention or supernatural theories:

    #1. That Elisa having a mental illness and poor decision making skills entered the water tank of her own choice. This would be predicated on the possibility that there was a wonky alarm system on the doors leading to the roof AND that some of the cameras were not working or maintained properly preventing anyone from seeing her ascent to the roof. Does this seem like a reasonable explanation for a hotel that has positioned itself as having a mysterious backstory while being in a seedy area of the city? To me it does.

    #2. The second potential is that Elisa was brought to the hotel roof by a person or party (probably within the hotel staff) who was predatory in nature. The hope would be to take advantage of an obviously attractive but mentally ill person. This would be predicated on the idea that a person had knowledge of how to get Elisa up to the roof, and that they would have to do so with minimal physical force as to not show signs of foul play (which isn’t all that hard to do for people taking full advantage of a person with poor decision making skills from the start)… Is it possible that predatory instincts exist in people to take advantage of a person with mental illness (especially if they are young and attractive and possibly even showing signs of desire to play along)? I think it’s more than possible..

    So there’s my pragmatic theories which are not meant to discount the opinions of those who prefer the theories of supernatural forces or government intervention, but rather to provide some more statistically plausible answers…

    • Kristina

      It would also mean the person knew of her illness and its extent….did anyone catch a link between someone knowing her and the hotel and its layout and its history and her notions of grandeur??? That’s a lot of “coincidences” that sound a bit more implausible than it just being a more paranormal instance….seriously….they would have to really know her and as someone who works in a hotel, I can say that it is pretty difficult to get to know your guests while you are on the clock and then meet up with them by the time you get off and be able to pull this off without having someone in the hotel staff see or at least catch on to a bit of what’s going on….something suspicious would’ve been determined by now in terms of staff that knew or hung around her…also, we would’ve had fotage of her check-in or eye witnesses of management, staff, and other guests of her speaking with a staff member…at least just to cover all basis….:/

      • http://www.mattsilver.ca/ Matt S

        Agreed. I suppose the possibility of a pre-existing encounter could’ve happened, (and again the male psyche is an interesting one when it comes to making sure it is noticed by the opposite sex)…. 😉

  • frank

    If she removed her clothes, were they not found by the police. was the cause of death drowning? the elevator may have been on a stop setting which after a while cancels out. then it would proceed to each floor that she pushed open and close quickly. I do believe in the supernatural but not so much in this case. Yet, did anyone but me not notice a large black cloud very fine in the elevator. (Maybe just shadows, or me grasping at straws.)

    • Robert Simpson

      kinda like the shadows for something being recorded over. what type of recording media did the hotel use….vhs?

  • Wuz nt Me

    I have a security camera in my kitchen (overlooks the living room also) and if I were to post footage of myself from numerous random occasions I’m sure people would diagnose me with all sorts of mental disorders…
    I don’t find her behavior all that odd. She seems playful rather than scared.
    As for the rest of the oddities, I have no idea. My first thought about the elevator’s behavior was that it might be in some sort of service mode. Although, my own, very limited, knowledge about elevators is that the service mode is operated with a key from inside the elevator. So, I would assume that the door would only stay open until someone walked inside and made it close.

  • http://angelasdiscountmarket.com/angela.html Angela Gatlin Edwards

    I think someone PREVENTED those elevator doors from closing which puzzled and then frightened Elisa. I think perhaps someone “offed” her and I think it’s very sad that her death was ruled “accidental” before any real investigation has taken place. Wonder what her family thinks?

  • Laura Figueroa

    Has anyone notice the movement in the elevator as she goes in and and when they close and open. Seems as if someone or something was in there with her.
    What “if” she some kind of possession and was not depressed and did not have any form of mental illness????? (Culture, Illuminati, Mental Illness, Paranormal ) It all it too damn weird and creepy.

    By the way, did they find her clothing around the tank?

  • Laura Figueroa

    Also, her mouthsee was distorted when it looks as if she was talking to someone.

    I think a cult member did this, a crack/meth head but most likely, someone see knew. There’s a lot of people like that in the area beside the fact that it’s down the street from skid row. Downtown itself was a place you would not want be around after 8or9 pm 2-3 years ago…

  • Dan

    Bipolar is depression now? You might not want to define things, in future, if you have no understanding of what they are. Please don’t speak if you have no idea of which you speak of.

  • Robert Simpson

    does it look like this was recorded or or does anyone remember how vhs tape looked when you recorded over it.

  • Valya

    I am half and half on this. I think this is a confluence of events. The principle of synchronicity. Negative and violent events at a location can create energetic repeating or random imprints, otherwise called ghosts or ghostly phenomenon. Especially when it is layered as in such a place as the Hotel Cecil. A person suffering mental illness with sleep deprivation no less I believe could be susceptible to these sorts of influences more than a person who is completely sane and healthy. Thusly, it could be mental illness and it could be paranormal entities using that vulnerability as an entrance. Her body movements appeared to me as being puppeted or controlled by something incongruous with a normal human movement. That also begs another question, why would she be called to such an odd, seedy, historically evil place by reputation to spend her vacation -alone- from Vancover? Why is this occurence along the lines of the movie Dark Water? Did she see the movie Dark Water? Did she study this hotel and know its history and went as far to see how it was built? Did this particular hotel draw her through the movie? At what point this was actually set in motion could it have been months or just that day? Getting through locked doors and passing alarms to the roof seems to me paranormal assistance or influence rather than being ushered by some worker who was waiting for her after she’s doing odd things, beyond hiding, in an elevator that she kept stepping in and out of erratically whilst pushing buttons randomly and in a strange way. Obviously, no mention of the Dark Water movie in her blogs. Although, she had pictures of rooftops in her blogs and tall buildings with people walking on them or being on top of them. Also, the synchronicity of ELISA LAM and the LAM ELISA test. To me that would point to paranormal synchronicity. And me trying to explain events leading to synchronicity detailed such as this is beyond confusing. Even what I’ve tried to explain sounds so weird I know :-/. It is a principle of measuring cause and effect of things that seemingly should not be linked but states there is no coincidence in the universe. This feels to me that there are so many confluences and coincidences and historical paranormal anomolies that this all came together in an exceedingly rare and frightening occurrence, and part of it was filmed like a horror ‘movie’ re-creation in and of itself. And the elevator doors weren’t acting normally and there was a misty substance in some frames. The timestamp issue could have been a stopping and starting and skipping of time other dimensionally in that paranormal situation. I really don’t know what the Illuminati would have gotten out of this even by conspiracy standards, esp. since I don’t know if they actually exist. I’m viewing this as a paranormal confluence of events that pulled in or attracted a very vulnerable girl. If there were female predator serial killer ghosts and ghostly imprints of tragedy and death there in that hotel it does fit into the synchronicity theory with all other factors I considered. One of the greatest mysteries I’ve seen in a long time.

    • The Ghost Diaries

      Brilliantly said. We’ve written before about the Synchronicity of Evil–coincidences that just seem to defy a materialistic, rationalist viewpoint, though I have heard a mathematician break down the statistical likelihood of coincidences in a way that was rather convincing…Either way, good analysis.

      • Valya

        Thank you…

    • Shinobu Sensui

      You have certainty done your homework, this is one of the best post’s Ive read on here
      involving this case. Very strange events for myself to have somehow found out about this
      case and have been experiencing synchronicity lately, have always been susceptible
      to spirits&apparitions have always experienced synchronicity; I never new it had a name
      until two days ago, I am also Bipolar but suffer from type one unlike this girl who I believe
      to be type two. Ive never experienced any hallucinations aside from what could be
      considered audible hallucinations and only once have I experienced that during a mental
      breakdown. With that said I do have friends with type two and they act schizophrenic
      I want to think this weird chain of events were only from mental illness,
      but so much is at hand here like what you pointed out. The first thing I questioned
      when I read about this is what drew her to that hotel, only to find out about the synchronicity
      involving all of the relations between these events, really strange. One thing Ive tried to
      wrap my head around was how she was able to close the lid of the water heater
      with it supposedly being 10ft deep, not sure of the width though? The other thing being
      the camera that looks to have been either messed up or Edited.

      • Valya

        Thank you Shinobu…I could actually map this Elisa Lam thing, but I have been exposed to direct paranormal synchronicities so it’s hard on me personally to relive it through another. Thank goodness my family and I did not have death as a result, just paranormal occurences. Simply, the way energy in the universe works through human beings in any given state is a mystery that sometimes crosses ‘the veil’ to this side. Many old cultures believed mental illness is spiritual in origin…or another perspective of the mind in the universe. Good luck to you! Good thoughts your way.

  • Tizme

    The strange thing is that the lift seems like it goes up all the way to the top floor, maybe the roof top at the end of the video. The light in the floor is brighter and is like sunlight.

  • Joyce Yagoda

    That is really creepy!! Why did she stay there when that hotel is in skid row. Why didn’t her parents know where she was? The Asians keep their children held very close to them.

  • SS

    Haven’t read any of the other comments, but I’m wondering why the elevator doors stayed open like that. She doesn’t appear to lock them, and if she did she doesn’t appear to unlock them. They just stay open. It almost seems like she’s waiting for them to close, and, perhaps because of her mental state, is moving around strangely in an effort to figure out why they won’t close. Then she walks out, and doesn’t re-enter the elevator even though it continues to open and close. Even when she moves her hands around the doors of the elevator, almost like she’s feeling for something, it looks like she’s trying to figure out why the doors are stuck open. Is the elevator fucking with her already fragile mind? I’m just saying. We need Mulder and Scully on this one.

  • Ryan

    In response to this article… With all due respect to the author, it is clear that he or she does not understand bi-polar disorder. This article states the “depression killed her.” If it was Bi-Polar disorder, the cause of death likely occurred while being in a manic phase (The “UP” side) and not the depressive phase.

    Being someone that suffers from Bi-Polar disorder, I can describe to you that mania is similar to being high on drugs. Trust me, I know what drugs are like because I had a lot of fun in college.

    Being manic can be (but not always be) absolutely and utterly f’ing insane. Sometimes its great. You can feel on top of the world and feel unconquerable. Perhaps even doing something like writing half of a novel in one day. Truly amazing things can occur while being manic. However, other times are not so great. Just like a bad acid trip, you can have a bad manic trip. An example is that you are terrified to the point of paranoia, I’ve even heard of hallucinations occurring. I’ve taken Lamectal, at many different doses. I’ll be honest, I’ve had marginal success. Manic episodes still occurred (instead of 4-6 a year, there were maybe 1-3 a year).

    I guess what I am saying is that I don’t feel that this is much of a mystery. There were some oddities and I know people would love to believe in ghosts, conspiracies, or other phenomena, but I just find it to be likely. So, in my opinion, case closed.

  • Mandalay burns

    Did the coroner perform a spinal tap to test for LSD? Her behavior in the video is remarkably consistent with a person that has taken a high dose hallucinogens and LSD wouldn’t show in a typical tox screen.

  • Carin Ekre Anderson

    Bipolar people do not have disconnected psychotic breaks like her behavior in the elevator. That would be schizophrenic behavior. The appalling use of bipolar disorder when she had no diagnosis besides depression is only perpetuating the stigma that people with bipolar disorder are inherently crazy and unstable. Ridiculous. Also, depression does not just morph into bp….bp is a lifelong chemical disorder thata person either has or not. So much stupidity here…I can’t even. Do your homework before publishing.

  • JDE

    she was an insomniac. Sleep disturbances can cause somnambulism. Sleep walking would explain all of this. It’s difficult to tell if the person is awake or asleep, but the behaviors pretty much echo this. They seem “in control” but do REALLY odd things as if hallucinating.

  • Al Is On

    Has anyone even considered she might have been sleepwalking? She said she had been having sleep problems. Maybe she was on sleep drugs that caused the sleep walking. It happens!

    • Andre

      Sleep walking? How can you sleep walk and climb onto the roof of a hotel building with a “lock and alarm”, open a heavy ass lid to a water tank take your clothes off, and end up dead inside?

      • Yen

        It may sound absurd but I once went on vacations with my family and my 14 year old brother (I guess because of the lack of sleep from the flights etc.) started sleep walking late at night. He left the apartment with a chair, closed the door, and tried locking it with the chair. I don’t know how long he spent outside but he then started knocking on the door. Sleep walking wasn’t anything out of the norm because he has done it since he was little. However, we were a little surprised that he was able to do all that and not wake up.

      • Andrew Pliakis

        When I was young I used to sleep-walk. In fact, I almost left the apartment complex one day, but thankfully the door was locked. The roof can be accessed via the fire escape, which is not secure. As for the clothes, perhaps she subconsiously thought of swimming due to the water.

        It’s even possible to actually kill yourself while asleep.

      • Lynn

        I once walked in my sleep and ended up unplugging all the electrical things in my room (a pc/monitor/sound system, a stereo, my bearded dragon’s heaters, daylight lamp, and basking lamp, my cell phone charger, and two lamps).

      • i

        My husband told me that his brother once sleep-walked in the middle of the night. It scared everyone because in the middle of the night, they found him sitting downstairs in the living room, practicing the piano. They woke him up, and he had no idea what he was doing. This was the only time he ever had a sleep-walking incident.

  • Anna lock

    I have to say that I agree with about of what everyone is doing concerning bi-polar. But there is something that did draw my attention. Did anyone notice the movement with the blotchness of the camera. I’m only saying that it was reminding me of video shots on paranormal shows that had the same effect. They would show and point out an area showing paranormal activity. It was blotchy but you could tell something was moving around. It just bothered me because it wasn’t like blotchy jumps popping from here to there all over the place. It has a weird movement like something moving …just a little. Maybe it’s just me but it did catch my eye.

  • Chuckles

    The bipolar explanation does not work. Mood shifts in bipolars occur after time, not an acute onset.

  • Brittany Phillips

    It looks like she got in the elevator and then heard **or felt something that spooked her…her reaction is exactly the reaction I would have if I thought someone was following me…especially of the paranormal sort…I would be silently panicked…peak out really really quick…hop back in the elevator and scootch to the corner…exactly what I would do at least and what she did…then it looks like she’s talking to someone…how long was she staying there…whatever it was could have been spooking her for a few days or so and she might have finally confronted it to her demise…………………………………..

  • Liz

    Stop summarizing bipolar as being depression or extreme depression. Psychosis is most frequently occuring in a manic or “mixed state”. Mania causes reckless behavior and psychosis, amongst other things. Depression is not really known to have psychosis as a symptom. A mixed state, which shares characterizations of both depression and mania, has the highest rate of suicide amongst the bipolar states. If it was bipolar she had, get it right and call it such throughout the article. Do your research and get it right if you want to remain credible.

    • over the moon

      YOU GUYS, she had all three. Her doctors have confirmed that prior to this event Lam was suffering 1) Depression 2) Bipolar disorder and 3) possible schizophrenic symptoms. These illnesses can have synergistic affects on each other. The research was done, not really sure why this point is confusing you.

      • Valya

        So do any mixture of states, that even cause A. A psychotic break B. Somnambulism C. Depression D. Mania explain coincidental anomalies that are statistically staggering? Do these states create the ability to get through locked doors and alarms? If she was in a manic state to break down the doors, the alarms would have been tripped. If she was in a psychotic break or sleepwalking and a predator that worked there just happened to take advantage of her state of mind and unlock the doors and guide her (after she is acting possessed in an elevator, she wasn’t evading anyone in my opinion) to her demise in a water tank with no sign of rape or foul play to the body? This is a case where the weight of evidence is in the realm of mystery that can’t be solved, to be diplomatic.

  • ReddDogg

    Is this the only hotel on the planet that doesn’t have security camera’s in the hallways?? Why is this the only video? FAKE

  • Ashley

    I am a Psychology student and I recently read several
    chapters about abnormal psychology and that girl’s behavior did not match that
    of someone suffering from bipolar disorder. She more closely matched someone
    with schizophrenia in the hotel video. Bipolar disorder is characterized by
    impulsive behavior, depression and mood swings, not strange movements and
    apparent hallucinations. Those are characteristic of schizophrenia, which she
    did not seem to have according to reports of her health history. Just to add more strangeness to the case…

    • Lynn

      As others have mentioned, Bipolar disorder can manifest in several different ways and it also has a tendency of comorbidity with several other illnesses. I personally have experience with two different people with the disorder and they are both on opposite ends of the “textbook bipolar” v “schizoaffective bipolar” spectrum. Furthermore, medications used to treat mental illnesses can often trigger /other/ episodes (which is why depression medications in the US have commercials that warn that medications can increase the risk of suicide).

      What we know is that Elisa was likely sleep-deprived, “vacationing” in a part of LA that no young, good-looking girl would feel safe in, mentally ill, and on a medication to treat it. She was far from home and any support she may have had in her hometown. All of this adds up to a possible psychotic break or worsening of symptoms. As someone with PTSD, anxiety, and deep depression, I can tell you that it can sometimes only take an hour or two of being alone and tired before my whole demeanor changes and I become less personable or capable dealing with reality.

      Now, as for the water tank and the other things surrounding this story, I don’t know. I haven’t a clue about it.

  • Guest

    Honestly. This is very mysterious. I do not think anything supernatural is going on, simply because in my expdrience as a human being, in most cases however eerie they seem the cause has always been natural. This does not have to do with me being narrowminded at all, but the fact that all things of life has to do with assesment of probability, and to me the most probable that her strange behaviour was due to the fact of her being drugged, despite them not finding anything in her system, drugs have halflife, her body had been decaying for 2 weeks. I am most certain a hotel employee is a culprit. I think it is a bit upsetting the fact they just ruled it an accident, this is either due to incompetence or hiding something, probably incompetence. The clip does seem to be editet. Now, all this strongly indicate that some scumbag with control of the hotels central command center. The elevators function was tampered with, the rooftop was accessed and seemingly the footage aswell was tampered with. All this strongly indicates that somebody working at the hotel was culprit, somebody with technological access. Now this is a good first lead from which alot can be found out. The fact that they did not immediately start to investigate is a disgrace!

    Instead of finding out paranormal indicators the internet should put their wise heads together and find real explenations. Maybe somebody could find out what people are working with the technological central command center at the hotel?

    • The Ghost Diaries

      More than a couple ppl have supposed someone at the hotel, with intimate knowledge of the roof and security systems, may be responsible. Frankly, it’s suspicious that there is only one bit of surveillance of her. Did she not check in, or walk down any other hallways during her albeit short stay?

  • LAM

    She was never on any drugs

  • Rub0453

    Please explain the unidentified foot she steps over in the last frame you see of her

    • Richard Plunkett

      That is her foot that you see as she turns and walks away.

  • Dennis

    I noticed the video on right that was slowed down at the end there is a shadowy image of a mans face mid to late 20’s
    . The first video I watched when the vacant elevator moved the door was closed and could see a figure of a mans face looked to be late 50’s early 60’s.

  • Wri Ter

    What I find weird is someone continuing to use her tumblr account. A lot of activity in the month immediately after she died, and the latest in December 2013

    • The Ghost Diaries

      REALLY?? What kind of activity–like tributes to her, or posts that seemed to originate elsewhere….by someone connected to her, maybe someone who knew what happened to her….

      • Wri Ter

        just her apparently normal random (like most people) tumblr stuff of reposts. see the archive view here: http://nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com/archive

        She went AWOL the last day of january. reports estimate she was in the tank that day or the next: http://www.examiner.com/article/elisa-lam-update-body-found-tank-decomposed-for-as-long-as-19-days

        I suppose it is possible that she had an extra day or two that she’s acting “business as normal” online right up unto the moment of death, but I don’t know. Then there are a few posts on her account in march, april, june, and finally one in december.

        now, there’s no original text being posted, but that’s normal for tumblr activity. i’m on tumblr, and like thousands of others, your activity primarily consists of seeing what pictures others pass on (repost) and then you do the same. on the images you do this to, it lists when you (and everyone else) reposts it. And this is her activity (just like most of mine and everyone else’s).

        I don’t think examining these post-mortem posts reveal anything, but it sure is odd. extremely damned odd.

        • The Ghost Diaries

          ODD seems to be the prevailing word to describe this case–and CREEPY.

          • Wri Ter

            yes. someone has access to her account. that is odd. and i just can’t fathom how they think she could have crawled in on her own. why did they ignore the mens clothes they found inside with her? i know they obviously have leads, but they shouldn’t make up an ending just to close the case…

          • Lynn

            She could have had posts queued. It is extremely common for people, especially people who run “aesthetic blogs”, to queue posts for various times of the year to coincide with feelings, memories, or themes during those months.

          • Wri Ter

            I’m aware that is possible, and considered it, but her stuff doesn’t strike me as structured, scheduled images. the schedule feature is most commonly used with those who do webcomics and the like and provide regularly scheduled, unique/new content.

          • Lynn

            As a user of Tumblr since very close to its public debut, I’m going to have to disagree with you about the use of queued posts. It’s quite common, especially for blogs with a theme (Elisa’s looks to be a fashion-forward blog).

            Tumblr is not like traditional blogging platforms and the culture (along with with technical use) is vastly different than other social media. Scheduling a post on Tumblr is very different than scheduling posts on WordPress. Queueing is a casual practice on Tumblr and is not limited to business blogs.

          • Wri Ter

            well, as a fellow user of tumblr, I have to disagree with you and we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

            Also, feeling the need to make claims like being “a user of Tumblr since very close to its public debut” doesn’t enhance your credibility, it tends to have the opposite effect.

  • j

    there was news that she had bipolar disorder and that may explain the strange behaviour, the movie may have been a trigger

  • CMCNY

    It looks like she is doing the Elevator Ritual http://blahknow.blogspot.ca/2013/08/games-you-dont-want-to-play-3.html

  • Theurgic

    Well I didnt take the time to read all of it, but however it just looks like she was getting impatient with the elevator and started acting goofy. Then she looked around outside to see for an out of order sign or assistance. Sorry if this sounds stupid which it might, but its common nature for people to make things more bizarre than they really are.

  • Charity

    Was the water tank lid found open or closed? If she accidentally fell in she wouldn’t have been able to shut the tank behind her.

  • Richard Kovacs

    A bi-polar disorder can cause severe mania or depression, which can lead to no longer perceive and interpret reality in a proper manner, called psychosis. The symptoms of psychosis includs persecution thoughts or auditory hallucinations. This can also lead to suicide due to the depression. It is realy sad to see that she didnt got proper treatment in time and the relaps its about the depression and mania .

  • http://Aurmont.com/ Alan Aurmont

    The LAM ELISA test is the creepiest part.

  • DaylightAmy

    The bottom line is that this should be an explainable death and it somehow has not been explained. She was in a public place covered with security cameras – anyone coming in or going out can be traced, including her. It has to be traceable how she even got on the rooftop, it should be traceable how she got the watertank open, it could even possibly have been traceable to determine where her clothes were taken off. Apparently her autopsy did show some drugs present in her system, ones that could cause hallucination, but that still doesn’t confirm what happened. In any scenario anything that happened here should have been easy to trace. And it wasn’t. And that’s really odd. Also I am never using water at hotels again thanks…

  • christy

    Cecil means blind. Blind to attack. Blind to the public eye. So much blind here.

  • The Stankbargler

    at the end of the elevator video, when she walks away she steps around someone or something…..it looks like a shoe….once ms lam walks around it, the “shoe” turns and follows her……does anybody else see that too?

    • Richard Plunkett

      That was her foot.

  • bre

    i wat to know why she was there in the first place,

  • Jen

    I would like to point out that, if she was in a delusional state, if she could not tell reality from hallucinations… how did she manage to get passed every hurdle she would have had to get through? The door to the roof was locked and alarmed. There is absolutely no way for anyone to get into those tanks without the ladder… which was stored in a locked storage shed. The “doors” or flaps on the storage tanks were locked as well. And even though she was a small girl a 16 inch opening is going to take some coordination to jump into. So this girl who was so mentally ill that she was disoriented and hallucinating managed to trick an alarm and get passed several locks, drag a gigantic ladder to the water tanks, climb them, get undressed, unlock the opening to the tank, and jump into a 16 inch opening? I’m just finding that a lot harder to believe than her being murdered. Perhaps an employee could tell her mental state was deteriorating and took advantage of that? Or perhaps her mental state had nothing to do with it. I don’t think this was an accident.

  • Angelo Ramos

    Ok, i know that all satanic human/demonic sacrifices requires the person naked, something is wrong with that hotel, why theres only one camera, was the others in the halley all santified broken? how did she got access to where the water reservatory was? Something was disturbing her for her to get in the elevator that way, if i felt panic, i would probably click on all elevator buttons, just wanted it closed, SOMEHOW, it didn’t close… look how affraid she was in while she was looking fast at both sides of the halley, she was afraid of beeing caught by something and something evil was starting to take control of her. Now, why does she alucinates that she is swimming and does all that moves with her hands? Smells like satanic work/possession starting taking control of her. And then she’s not seen anymore… When she leaves, the elevator started working and going all around freely in every single floor.. I guess that hotel has some hidden room that after this, they caught her and did the ritual, or it was all already made by taking control of her mind..

    MY GUESS: She was murdered by satanists, served as sacrifice, 80% of probability of people that are connected to that hotel.

    How I believe that theres dark magic somewhat included in this? Because i’ve seen it alot and they do work!

  • Angelo Ramos

    Well my second thought, from all I have read and researched about this case (just not to be such a paranormal crime), it appears too that she was drugged / poisoned a period of time before entering the elevator, some kind of drug that can disappear in the body (up to two weeks while the submerged body was decomposing) . Let us note how it fits… Upon entering the elevator looks like she’s running away from someone slightly, but was drugged and did not notice because the effect is not strong yet, however, the supposed criminal prevents (Just to note that the door tries to close, but is prevented short) that the door does not close; or by elevator control system, or by Elisa pressing all the buttons.

    At this point, she looks like giving a little jump and looking both ways (there is a video with real speed, the one we use to watch is a bit slower), but now she realizes she is a little dizzy … then she comes out of the elevator, and gives a rushes/littled leap forward, and takes a few steps… and that’s where she is testing and realizing that she’s dizzy… So she stands next to the elevator, and holds her head with both hands stopped by a while. Note that around 1:29, she demonstrates dizzy symptom / drugged because her foot does not respond right, then she enters holding the elevator door with both hands.

    Then she tries once again to move the elevator, but it does not work for the second time … she probably feels a burning, or numbness in her arms, and her body tries hard movements, including pulling the fingers back hard, to get rid of the numbness … Here the drug is already very strong and taking control of her. Then she just boot hands on head and exits with clubfeet giving short steps because she feels very dizzy.

    Probably here she faints… and someone catches her and throws her into the water tank (somebody inside the hotel, remember no one couldn’t reach the roof if it not was somebody associated with the hotel), and by that killing her drowned.

    The drug body dissipates in the water and toxicology tests came negative.

    Note: The person who was driving / controlling the elevator must have made it go to the top floor … where is desert … she came out, saw that it was the wrong floor and return to the lift all this occurred.

    Some extra data on the case:

    1. She had no cellphone with her, it had been loaned to a friend.
    2. There are several alarms and doors to get in the water tanks, and would not it have gone alone, only employees have the key, and coincidentally has the elevator control.
    3. The floor was already home for killers and people who wanted to suicide.
    4. She was naked, without clothes. And the clothes were never found, to anulate the finger prints of the assassin.
    5. There was way up high into the reservatory, except for a ladder, however, there was some stairs to go up in the building, if it was suicide she wanted, would be easier and less painfull for her to jump off the building.
    6. The little door that covered water tank was really hard to open, how could a drugged girl open that? Notice also that the water tank had the door closed, once jumped inside the tank how could she reach to close the door? <- main fact (shows already it was not accidental)

    Anyway, that's my other view of this case without paranormal acitivities

  • Kelly

    Bipolar is periods of extreme mania and depression phases, spending money, confidence, having a great time then going into a depression. Spilt personality may make someone believe they are the hider and the seeker but bipolar has nothing to do with that.

  • Ses

    Bi-polarty doesn’t mean what you think it means. It’s not multiple personality. It’s manic-depressive syndrome. It may be linked with psychosis, so that is one thing.

  • Nate

    Bipolar is not MPD. A complete mental break would stem from something else.

  • Slice of cake

    The film was edited. I believe they edited out an authority figure grabbing her hands and arms. And leading her outside. smh. Cover up.

  • TheGirlRye10

    Soooo where did her clothing go? They never mention her clothing. She’s found NAKED in the water tank. I assume they would have mentioned A. She was naked wandering around the hotel or B. They would have found clothing on the rooftop before taking DAYS to figure out her body was in the water tank!

  • Occam’s Razor

    To me it doesn’t look like she’s afraid at all, so the theories that she was hiding from someone don’t seem to fit. Her body language seems to indicate a playfulness. I don’t think there was anyone else around, but she seems to be expecting to see someone. However, it doesn’t appear that she was afraid of this person.
    How she ended up dead and in the water tank is mysterious, but I don’t believe her actions in this video have anything to do with her death. I think she was playing around, hitting all the buttons in the elevator and didn’t realize she hit the door open button. When the doors stayed open she imagined someone on the outside pushing the elevator button, and that is why she pops her head out to see. It doesn’t look ominous. She seems to be in a good mood.
    What happened after this video is another story.

  • Xong Lee

    Has anyone ever thought that the reason she stepped to the side while in the elevator was to avoid any sensors for the elevator doors so that it will close? And when she’s jumping in and out of the elevator, it was to catch the culprit who’s causing the elevator to remain open (which she didn’t see anyone)? When she’s standing outside the door waving her hands, it’s to check if there’s anything there that’s causing the doors to remain open? Wouldn’t you be frustrated too if you stepped into an elevator and pressed the floor(s) you wanted to go to and the door will not close? Wouldn’t you press the buttons for the floors again just to double check that it didn’t register the first time? Watch the video again after reading this and check her characteristic. Tell me if I’m wrong.
    I’m thinking there is foul play here. Someone who can stop the elevators stopped it so she couldn’t go anywhere and she’s probably a little (or a lot) scared to take the stairs by herself. Someone threw her in that water tank. The detectives probably didn’t want to look more into it and the pathologist wasn’t serious with the autopsy. Either that, they didn’t want to deal with an Asian, or they were paid to keep quiet.

    • Richard Plunkett

      One thing I think most of us can agree on is that it wasn’t an accidental death. Was it suicide? I doubt it since if it was she would have had to put her arms over her head to fit through the opening. Now someone thought that a worker might have noticed the top open and closed it but does it make sense that they wouldn’t investigate if anything had fallen in or at least notified someone? I don’t think so. Now we can also just about rule out natural death. So that leaves us with homicide. But who is the killer then?

  • https://plus.google.com/u/0/114918436301845057752/posts Dean Fang

    OMG!! I hadn’t read the article above. I had not heard of this case and wrote the following without any knowledge of what happened. Yet somehow it ties directly into what I have been speak of for a long time now. It can’t be coincidence either!

    Beyond the door not opening for a prolonged period of time. There is
    something strange going on with the shadow details. They seem to skip
    and jump. There is also two instances that, appear to me, that the time
    jumps instantaneously. Once when she is bent over pressing the buttons.
    And the other when she is in the hall flailing her hands. If you watch
    her right wrist it appears to jump in an unnatural way. You may have to
    rewind and watch several times as I have.

    And not to creep you
    guys out. But there is definitely some strange fog or something in the
    elevator. Is that just how the low quality video makes it appear?
    Possibly. But does anyone else feel like there is a shadowy… sort of..
    shape over the elevator door when it closes? Like you can’t fully see
    the metal door behind “it”? Even though nothing is there.
    Or have we been trained to not believe in that sort of stuff?
    Also, she seems to be talking to someone when she is waving her hands around doesn’t it?
    And
    how do we even know something happened to her? I just watched this
    video and haven’t heard anything outside of watching this independently.

    AND I ALSO PREVIOUSLY WROTE THIS. ON another stie.

    Was someone edited out of this video?? At 2:00 she truly appears to be
    talking to someone who isn’t visible. Yes yes, she might be under the
    influence. But why at 2:06 does her hand suddenly and unnaturally jump
    towards her? Also, watch the shadows and light on the right elevator
    wall. They seem to jump or shift even when she is not in the elevator.
    The lighting. It’s always about the lighting.

  • DeliciousCake

    Just to point out the medical coincidence here, LAM stands for lymphangioleiomyomatosis, which is a lung disorder that can crop up in people with tuberculosis.

    An ELISA test (Enzyme-Linked ImmunoSorbant Assay) is a REALLY common test in the medical industry (and has been along for a long time) that detects antigens of a disease.

    So a LAM-ELISA (which is a creepy coincidence, but still just a coincidence) would be a test for LAM in patients suspected of carrying TB, trying to detect the antigens. This is a valid test, and not something that would have been named after Elisa Lam.

    • Richard Plunkett

      Was that the only thing they tested for or did they test for other diseases? Because if that’s the only thing they tested for there’s something else going on.

  • KarenK

    Okay, I’m REALLY sick of people with depression being called bipolar. I am bipolar, and there is a HUGE difference between that and depression. Get your facts straight, please.

  • Kes Nation

    Look at the video, the door never closes until she is gone. Then when it does close there appears to be a face that shows up looking at the camera.

  • LGRW

    Although it is not common, persons with bipolar disorder have been known to have hallucinations, whether auditory or visual. Some even have delusions. One of the most “common” hallucinations in bipolar disorder is something running across the floor that isn’t there. Usually they are not anything to be concerned about, and most people with bipolar disorder can usually tell at the moment it’s happening that it’s not real. They are still in touch with reality, and are keenly aware that their mind is playing tricks on them in the moment.

    HOWEVER, sometimes during bipolar disorder, depending on the person and their specific case, delusions with hallucinations (psychosis) can happen during a manic phase. Now again, this is not common, but it can happen. Think of it as the brain “snapping”, either do to stress, or brain chemistry. Sometimes a mental disorder can help…bring it out, I suppose is a good way to say it. I want to make it aware, not EVERYONE with bipolar disorder will have any psychosis. Most people with bipolar disorder/depression/anxiety, etc. are recommended to try to keep a relatively stress-free life. Most people with these diseases are fine with day-to-day stresses, but some people can “snap”. It’s not anyone’s fault, and it doesn’t have anything to do with the disease itself. It’s brain chemistry and environmental factors.

    Honestly, when I see this video, I see a woman who had a psychotic break; nothing occult related. It’s a very sad thing that it had to end this way. I feel like if someone was around, they would have at least been able to help her get to a safe place.

  • Bianca Hill

    It was a haunting. It’s pretty obvious. Unless one of the housekeepers we’re the serial murder’s. If you think about it why hasn’t this place been shut down from how many crimes it has taken place? Has the manager been asked many times about what has happened or the house keepers? I mean there’s crazy people like that in this world. And she’s for sure hiding from someone. If this place isn’t haunted then there is a serial killer lurking for it’s next kill. Cops needs to think twice about this.

  • Guest

    The wall in the hallway is black each time the elevator door opens until near the end. Then, the wall in the hallway is a bright orange.

  • joytheauthor

    Each time the elevator door opens, the wall in the hallway is black. Toward the end, the elevator door opens and the wall is a bright orange. If there was a person in the hallway, the person knew to not get near the elevator- that there was a surveillance camera. Also, an alarm would have gone off if she accessed the roof and she was too small physically, to put herself in the tank.

  • Josh

    If you look closely, you can make out the minutes/ second area ticking. At one point the minute area changes in a matter of seconds.. Meaning there’s more to the original copy that we don’t see.

  • Blueberry Jam

    Okay let’s see.
    After I read her blog I came to the conclussion that yes she was depressed and bi-polar but she would have never done this. I mean suicide. She does not know what to do with her life but from what I could see she was smart. Hard for me to explain in words because English is not my primary language, but it all makes sense that she could not have commited suicide. At least not yet, she wasn’t desperate enough. And even if she wanted to commit suicide, I don’t think she would have chose this method. Why would you bother bypassing two security doors, unlock a idk how many tons water tank go inside and even lock it behind you. Assuming that this could be done by a person. When you can just jump off the hotel or blow your head with a gun. I think she was shy and caring in real life which got me to the idea that she wouldn’t want to put other people in harms way ( drinking her body remains after she died ). Also I think she would have left a note of what she’s about to do. I don’t see how people came to the conclussion that she was crazy. She was very smart and aware of things. In one entry she said she wants to write more on her blog so she could improve her writing and thought flow. This sounds to me like someone who analized her life aspects and tried to improve them even while fighting off loneliness.
    Next. The tuberculosis drug test. This is just paranoia and coincidence of the name. Simple explanation : if the government was testing drugs on people they would have never used a name of a subject and they would have never told people in the first place. They’re not stupid. Plus who knows how many doctors and scientists are named Elisa Lam in L.A. And one more thing. If they were testing drugs on people then they would also have to monitor their reactions and activities. And correct me if I’m wrong but if a test subject kills himself you don’t leave him/her in the water tank to be discovered by other people. That’s just what I think. But just so you know, I never rule out the government experimenting things on people.
    The Dark Water movie. There is only one explanation I could come up with. The killer which probably has killed before is “fascinated” either by movies in general or by this movie in particular so he/she thought of setting it in motion in real life.
    I don’t know much about how elevators work so I won’t go into the pressing buttons, elevator not moving thing. But I can talk about her behaviour, and there are two possible scenarios:
    1. She was drugged or drunk and the toxicology report is not real.
    2. She was just acting childish ( having fun ). Yes. Why do I say this? Because I’m a 27 year old lonely guy that is depressed as fuck and sometimes when I’m alone I act like a 10 year old kid, and I remember doing the same things, with full awarness of my movements and decisions. Personally I think she didn’t know there was a camera in the elevator. And she couldn’t have seen the killer because if you know you are followed and see the elevator is not working you don’t stick around for another 1 or 2 minutes and you don’t press all the buttons so calmly to escape.
    Alright so here is my theory :
    Elisa Lam was drugged by someone who works at Cecil Hotel for some time. She probably got out the room and started acting strange on the halls while being watched by the killer. Then they got in contact and he/she took Elisa on the roof and threw her in the water tank. I don’t see how otherwise the killer would manage to persuade her to go up on the roof. Only other method is knocking her unconscious but that does not appear in the autopsy report ( might also be a lie ). Or the killer was someone she knew, maybe met on the internet and that’s the reason she was at Cecil Hotel in the first place. I mean there are more methods that I can think of but it all involves faking the autopsy and toxicology reports, which I do believe is the issue here.
    I think there is more than one footage of Elisa Lam in that hotel but they only released the one where she is acting crazy. And also the footage in the elevator has been clearly modified.
    So why all the cover up? Who knows. Many reasons :
    1. The killer is too smart for the police and they just can’t catch him. And because this case got a lot of media attention the police tried to solve it fast by ruling it a suicide. They released only that footage, basicaly telling us “look, she was clearly insane, so it’s suicide”. And there are no drugs in her system.
    2. The killer wasn’t a good catch. Maybe the killer is someone eluding police for some time now. Maybe all the people who have died in that hotel before were the work of the same guy. Which means that if authorities caught him only now and would show him to the press it would end in being bad publicity for the police department.
    3. The killer is the government so yeah.
    Etc.
    In any case you cannot tell me that it’s accidental. Yeah I accidentally opened two secured doors. I accidentally opened the tank hatch which was probably closed with a chain. I accidentally lost my clothes along the way. I accidentally fell in the tank and I accidentally closed the tank after I dropped there.
    I don’t know why but I got really attached to this case. She seemed really nice. Bad things happen to good people. This world is fucked up.

  • tomasiepants

    She did drugs and was followed not by authorities, but by do-gooder community officers. She was being spied on / and under surveillance. She found out who was following her, she threatened to expose government shenanigans… and was murdered.

  • Jalen P

    look at the sped up video after the elevator closes the glass is red when it opens

  • razorqueen

    This is a very interesting case. However, the way you describe bipolar disorder is misleading. Depression does not escalate to bipolarity; they are two different disorders. Yes, if you have bipolar disorder, you suffer from depression, but it’s not like your depression got worse and you started experiencing manic episodes. If Lam was indeed having a full-blown manic episode, she could have been hallucinating and experiencing acute anxiety and paranoia, but probably not wild mood swings from moment to moment. (My doctor once asked me if I was having hallucinations and I said, “How would I know?”)

  • Vickitoria

    My first thoughts of what I read about the case was that it certainly was creepy. I don’t know a lot about bipolar, but my first impression of Elisa in the elevator is that she was acting quite playful as if there was someone else with her just out of the camera shot and they were pushing buttons, to stop/start the elevator. That might explain why she pushed lots of buttons, to confuse the person who was with her. They could also be on the outside pushing the button also. Once she exits the elevator Elisa and whoever she was with climb to the top of the roof, maybe it got out of hand, maybe they both decided to take a swim in the water tank? Did anybody think that maybe she did meet someone who whilst in the elevator was being playful with. Maybe she was going to ride to the top floor and try to beat whoever she was with up to the roof. It is possible they both went to the roof and playfully decided to take a swim in the tanks, and perhaps she accidentally drowned. Not wanting to be caught up in her death and be perhaps accused of something they didn’t do…the person wit h her left.

  • Ashley Solomon

    Just a thought… Since it is so obvious the video has been altered, who’s to say the person/people altering it were covering up additional people being in the elevator with her?

    In the beginning, she’s pressing a lot of buttons (possibly even a stay open button) and acting ‘odd’, but the first time she backed into the corner next to the elevator buttons. I thought I saw her mouth moving as if she was talking to someone outside of the elevator on the opposite side. The video is such poor quality that it’s impossible to tell definitively. Stepping in and out is strange I’ll give you that but if she was just playing around, possibly waiting for someone to come to the elevator, it seems normal. Pressing the stay open buttons, or just a lot of them, in and out of the elevator could easily explain the elevator doors not closing.

    When she is outside the elevator on the left side she’s making strange arm movements indicating… area maybe… or signalling to a person (on the opposite side of the hallway then the person I described above) to come into the elevator.

    When the video goes ‘blank’ for a while, there are still shadows/changes in light and color that can’t just be explained away by the poor quality of the camera. I believe the video has been overwritten by footage from a different time. Yet while altering the video the underlying footage is still playing and bleeding through. The victim is on the same side of the elevator accompanied by a person in what looks like to be a white shirt. The person is taller than her and I saw what looked like to be fast arm movements. The body language seems to be indicating an argument between them. Then the person leaves the elevator when the door opens.

    Also though I saw a glimpse of an up close face after the one in white leaves. Maybe the face of the person behind the cover up…

  • Daniel North

    People who are Bi-polar can have mass hallucinations and hear voices, sometimes they can even think they are god. Most think the heavy downs in bi-polar are the worst parts, but its weird that the highs seem to kill the most sufferer’s. As they believe they are more then what they are and end up doing crazy rash these like jumping from buildings thinking they can fly, eating strange dangerous things, or even go under water to long thinking they can breat in water.

  • Nestor

    A volunteer medium may be able to solve this . let the true come out.

  • Jess

    Has anyone else figured out she is STILL posting on her facebook? It looks and seems legit however I know there is a chance that it’s a fake account but the account has existed since BEFORE she “died.” Guys go look, I’m not shitting you. I think she’s still alive.

  • Ashraf Badaoui

    That woman when she was at the elevator, she was under the influence of drugs or alcohol…
    I am sure of what I am saying…
    The report released months after her death saying she was clean is wrong… She was not!

  • Hal4321

    She probably saw the film, “Dark Water” and re-enacted it. She obviously was a little unbalanced.

    Who says that the door was actually locked or the alarm set on the day this took place?
    Seedy hotel and we are to believe that all safeguards were necessarily in place?
    The Hotel, afraid of liability, would very likely deny that there was a slip-up the day this occurred, which was many days before they found her up there.

    The tank lid was probably closed by staff a few days before she was discovered by staff,Moho found it opened but did not look down or could not see down into a dark tank.

    Sad case, more than a creepy case.
    Too bad the family has to suffer theough this becoming sensationalized.

  • Eric Smitherman

    Did they ever question hotel employees or other guests? It could be paranormal, but a more logical reason could be a second party. Some guy stalking her. Not all killers rape their vice.

  • Kathleen Haney

    Not up on this case, but I think I just read where this poor girl’s sleep patterns were all screwed up. If she was struggling with depression, the upset with sleep would escalate her depressive symptoms. Your behavior becomes rash and you can’t think straight at all. Could be just a case of everything hitting the wall at once. I do hope they find out more.

  • Megan

    Some…THING…lives in that hotel. Look at the history of the place. She may have run into it. On second thought, watch the video. She did.

  • Pelle Bee

    it’s funny when people try to make this out to be something supernatural. She seems totally bipolar (which IS NOT depression, look it up) and her mania probably went into schizo-affective disorder. Mental health people. Not ghosts or some conspiracy. I’ve known a few people in my life who suffer from schizophrenia and bipolar type 1, it looks like this could totally be that

  • Sacc

    You people are basing facts in your own experiences. Let’s not forget that humans are very complex and Psychology is very broad. Nothing is ever constant to it and it’s ever-changing. Why? Because no two people are the same and the world(all factors) evolves constantly. Even though 2 or more people have the same Psychological disability and are taking the same drugs (even the same doses), environment, social state, history, personality, and many more can affect the person’s current state. That is why we cannot really judge whatever Elisa went through just because of some story we found in the news and other articles – especially if we try to compare it with our own experiences. You need to really be there, and investigate her life first-handedly before you can say anything. When I say life, I’m talking here about the people around, childhood, parents, friends, way of living, relationships – everything. Many things can be mixed up that might have lead her to that situation – same with everybody else.

  • Dave J

    Has anyone made a connection with the latin on her blog and the latin words written in chalk or possibly painted on the outside of the water tank they found her in?

  • Dalig

    Maybe her murderer worked at the hotel, some cleaning guy or whatever saw her acting weird before the elevator, followed her or something..by pressing the elevator button from outside, the doors would not shut, making Elise panic or act ever stranger… After she steps out the other person tries to communicate and help her or whateve. After that she probably runs away or something…maybe falls or something in the staircase hits her head but cause no bleeding but maybe an inner bleeding, she faints, the other person probably panics and takes her up to the rooftop (since he/she probably works there, they have keycards and stuff…) the person dumps her in the watertank and then covers every trace up, explaining the timestamp thing. Also there is no sound either making it even more difficult knowing if someone else was present…

  • Jae Richards

    What I REALLY want to know is why were the doors not closing?

  • Balky

    There are two different versions of surveillance video on youtube. One where she is wearing a red top and one where she is wearing a blue top. Elaborate hoax?

  • I’m watching you watch me

    She was running for her life, and someone shut down the elevators.

  • Kelly white

    As a person with A LOT of mental illness in the family I can tell this poor girl did not do this to herself. she is not acting mental in the vid nor is demons at play. She is quite clearly looking for a culprit for the elevator door not working properly,.I can tell tho she has an almost childish way about her as some people with mental illness can and would explain they way in which she childishly looks for a culprit and is annoyed at the door not closing. This could of possibly happened before while staying at the hotel which makes her believe someone is doing it purposely. I do think however someone has murdered this girl and maybe picked up on the fact she had a mental health issue for sure. But this has also clouded peoples judgments having a mental health issue does not automatically make you suicidal or unable to look after yourself. I think for certain she was a capable young woman, just unfortunate some awful human being maybe saw a vulnerability.

  • Tim Murray

    After having been in a long term relationship with a girl who was bi-polar, had a schizo-effective mood disorder and whom I later learned was also Autistic, I recognize Elisa Lam’s behavior as that of side effects of both Lamictal and Seroquel.
    My ex was on both of these and had also been prescribed Lithium years before. We met in 2005 and were together about 4 years. I woke up one night to find her not in bed or anywhere in the house. Her dad and I spent hours looking for her, trying to call her on her cell, which she somehow miraculously remembered to bring with her, only to find that she had somehow ended up across town, in a lot next to a restaurant called Pinnacle Peak Steakhouse. I finally got her on her cell phone, and it turns out she thought she was in a grass field when it was just the small lot there. How did she get there? She walked, in a medication induced haze and with hallucinations.

  • Kat

    Wait… She was found nude? Did they find her clothes? If not, I think that would point to her being murdered.

    • S3v3n007

      I wondered about that too. Doesn’t seem to be mentioned. I wouldn’t think her clothes were found because I’d think they would make a statement about running the clothes through whatever testing processes necessary to find DNA & what have you.

  • Queen

    I clicked the ‘LAM ELISA TEST’ and it gave me a crazy bug.

  • Tim

    I only recently discovered this case, but I have been greatly intrigued by it and would like to share my thoughts.

    I believe Elisa knew about this hotel and its infamy, which is why she was compelled to visit it on her trip. Why else would she? Skid row is the last place I would imagine a young college girl visiting would want to be…It is very common for individuals with mental illness to have morbid fascinations and to be drawn to the macabre. I also believe Elisa saw the movie Dark Water, which is how she might have learned of the hotel in the first place. The movie clearly alludes to it .The two main characters are named “Cecilia”and “Dahlia,” (reference to the “Black Dahlia,” who was rumored to have had stayed at the hotel before she was murdered). Elisa’s death is just so eerily similar to the plot of the movie that I find it hard to be merely a coincidence. My theory is that while she was in her manic/delusional state, as evidenced by the elevator footage, she had a suicidal impulse and attempted to re-enact the death in the movie…The lack of surveillance footage leading up to the rooftop suggests that the hotel had poor security maintenance , which would explain how she could have easily gotten up there herself.

    • S3v3n007

      VERY good theory, Tim! That could be a possibility….here’s my theory: I think the missing 54 seconds would show the person behind this mystery. Since SOMEBODY edited the tape & the alarm to the roof didn’t go off, I think “someone affiliated with a large entity” paid a Hotel Cecil employee to kill her (to send the public a warning about the upcoming biological attack…TB has been prevalent in Africa/EBOLA was rampant in Africa).

      Who else would have access to the roof & the tape?! Seems logical to spike her drink or whatever, so her “strange behavior” would delay an investigation & make it plausible to convince the public that “she offed herself”. God knows bath salts aren’t the only drugs that raise the body’s temperature, causing people to rip off their clothes… Employee of the Month could’ve easily coerced her to “cool off by taking a quick dip upstairs”, so that she would go WILLINGLY instead of screaming.?

  • S3v3n007

    Obviously, the delay on revealing the toxicology report is beyond suspicious. Aren’t there drugs out there that you can’t trace, though? Like GHB, for one? & I can’t remember if I read somewhere Salvia was on that list, too? Wouldn’t be too shocking if she got hit with a dose especially in such a creep fest area of town.

  • S3v3n007

    Obviously, the delay on revealing the toxicology report is beyond suspicious. Aren’t there drugs out there that you can’t trace, though? Like GHB, for one? & I can’t remember if I read somewhere Salvia was on that list, too? Wouldn’t be too shocking if she got hit with a dose especially in such a creepfest area of town.

    & WHOA about that “coincidence” video posted?!!! The first thing,asking if this is a warning for an upcoming biological attack….I’m thinking EBOLA? :-O & talking about TB being in Africa….Ebola was very rampant in Africa!

  • Ken Teo

    Go watch this – Chinese investigator conclusion!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEvJeMXyDUQ

  • Bi-polar IPAdd

    Bi-polar people love conspiracy theory. Congratulations “Elisa Lam” you just conducted what might be the first census for bi-polar IP addresses! I love it!

    • The Ghost Diaries

      Lol

  • Centris

    My theory is that it was someone who knows the hotel very well, enough to deactivate any roof alarms and avoid the camera, perhaps an employee of the Cecil themselves. He spooks her, she tries to get away on the elevator. Noticing the doors are not closing she looks around to see who could be locking the elevator doors open. Perhaps someone triggered the emergency stop, which would cause the doors to stay closed, or they were using the call button to keep the doors ajar. She tries the buttons for the other floors. She goes to the hall, waves her hands in front of the sensor of the doors and continues to try and activate the doors while avoiding the person in the shadows. She walks off camera, presumably to investigate, and he grabs her from there. She’s brought to the roof access and forced into the water tank, where she dies. It could have been covered up to such an extent because the hotel already has horrid history and probably did not want to lose the remaining guests that visited. Concluding, she’s crazy and did it herself, which while creepy still gives the hotel a lack of responsibility.